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Audio Transcription for Oral Argument - January 16, 1969 in Kramer v. Union Free School District No. 15

Osmond K. Fraenkel:

They make denominations.

And then there are also other matters which can be disposed of at these meetings, certain tax matters, certain matters relating --

Potter Stewart:

Having to do with schools?

Osmond K. Fraenkel:

Out of state, out of the district and things of that sort.

Potter Stewart:

And so these are actually meetings and what we're -- are they public meetings?

Can anybody come to the meeting?

Osmond K. Fraenkel:

So far as I know, yes.

Potter Stewart:

And only these people can vote.

Osmond K. Fraenkel:

Only these people can vote.

Potter Stewart:

And how often do these meetings held?

Osmond K. Fraenkel:

That I don't know.

I don't know.

I would suppose at least once a year perhaps often.

Potter Stewart:

So we're -- so this statute --

Osmond K. Fraenkel:

Actually being a resident of the City of New York and I'm not too familiar with what goes on in the suburbs.

Potter Stewart:

And this does not involve ballot box voting?

Osmond K. Fraenkel:

No.

Potter Stewart:

It involves voting in an open meeting.

Osmond K. Fraenkel:

That's right.

Hugo L. Black:

Which people did you say up a minute ago?

Osmond K. Fraenkel:

Roughly taxpayers and parents.

In other words, the owners or renter -- owners or renters of taxable real property and their respective spouses.

Hugo L. Black:

What about people under 21?

Osmond K. Fraenkel:

And to parents of children attending school.

No, they have to be qualified otherwise to vote in the state and they have to be over 21.

They have to be --

Hugo L. Black:

Children under 21?

Osmond K. Fraenkel:

Citizens and so on.

Hugo L. Black:

People under 21 vote?

Osmond K. Fraenkel:

No, not in New York.